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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2009, 12:31:57 pm »

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This is one part of my belief. But I also believe that if this is too huge then to break that one event down with simple regression.  Smiley
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2009, 10:38:27 am »

I would go back to five years old or thefirst time you felt this trauma.

Something happened that created a "memory milestone" and since then that memory milestone re manifested its mile over and over. The people changed but the event stays the same. Whenever you venture to stick your neck out back into life, the mile begins to manifest.

I have two takes on this. The first is that it is not nessasary to dig up the past in order to fix the present. BUT. (another Biggie. and here comes another) If it bothers you so much that you simply cannot manifest anew regardless,.........then do some therapy, dig it up and "heal " it.

With symbolic sight the pattern points to abandonment and "uncaring" guardians.

But the matter is with you. In your mind and in your perception. That is the only place to heal it for you. So blaming and all that does not solve the problem it only brings it back to life. And yet when you feel like blaming then do. Because we need to open all closets to let all feelings out. Untill they are open and empty for fresh breeze to blow through them.

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2009, 07:40:01 am »

Hummmm...

I've read several of these and glanced at the rest, please allow me to jump on board with some questions...

I feel like a broken record as I have delt with these very questions for so long and more intensely in the last 18 months. I've sought eugeen's aedvice on this very subject on more than one occcasion. I was absent from all the boards for several months and a very emotional "first time" for me experience has led me right back to the very same family group I found elsewhere in December of 08, so if these questions seem rehashed over again please bare with me or bare or sumthin...

If ( the biggest 2 letter word in existance) IF we are not our emotions and our emotions do not define us per say how does it come to bare that Events wich are imidiately life altering ( let's not nit pick every moment is life altering but you know what I mean) these milestone events we "choose" through our actions thoughts and beliefs, how do they effect our emotions so that we choose to alter our view points and even our beliefs systems and not then define who we are on this PLANE. Mind you I do believe that we are not on this plane all we fully are at a soul level, but the present moment foccuss so widely "preached" would place us as being who we are at this given moment.

So not to double speak or overthink, but where does this concept become null and void in the necesity of day to day survival vs day to day growth and advancement.

And playing devil's adv as usual uriel would introduce another wrench into the gears of we are not our emotions by asking how these concepts then relate to those like *ME* who are diagnosed, supposedly depending who you ask, with emotional control disorders severe enough that it feels under daily circumstances that I can not master my emotions at all, but rather that I am washed in the ebbing and flowing tide that are my emotions which are constantly effected by outside circumstances...said circumstances always being consequential to my own choices.

There fore leading back to it's my choice to feel this garbage then why does it take something dramaticly tramatic to change in an instant what months and even years of meditation and so called "therapy" had not effectivly altered to that point?Huh?

OH and if you think for a minute that the field of medical science has been of any help and I do mean any help then take me to your leader I need to meet the Doctor, preacher, Guru, spiritual adviser, who ever that can make heads or tales of what I feel, vs what I believe, vs what I know to be true on a spiritual level vs what I know to be seemingly contradictorily true on the physical plane.

For instance...The faithful night around thanksgiving when someone posted to my wife of eleven years "you must be crazier than your husband...He's suicidal over your decision to move on to be with your one [twin flame, w/e] and rather than help him find profesional help you antagonize him by posting the whole thing" And our only response was that 3 years of professional help had only led me closer to suicidal than ever.

And that has been the gidst of the not I have been trying to untangle since age 5, circumstances changing but feelings remaining madenlingly similar. scared angry resentful anxiuos...all fear based emotions which entangle me until an angel comes to comfort me only to throw me back into the lion's den of earth living for round five hundred and ten.

who among you be wise enough to help me disentangle my soul from my earthly emotions ask Uriel  idiot2
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2009, 09:50:45 am »

Yes. I would also venture to say that unconditional love is not an emotion but it sure feels like being in love.

Denying emotions can make you sick. Dwelling on them also.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2009, 09:07:42 am »

In my life I experience alot of emotions.

There is a disparity too. People say there are negative emotions and positive emotions, then 'they' say love is not an emotion. All lifeforms have emotions. I often see the dog wag her tail and frolic around, but sometimes the dog howls mournfully, like when it's left alone too long.

So, maybe a spirit is not emotions, but all people have emotions.

Emotion is the natural passion of life and higher lifeforms have more complex emotions. Even in dreams there are emotions.

I think it is best to accept any emotion that occurs, because it is definately unhealthy to deny your own emotions. Old pent up emotions cause mental and physical illness.

I personally just accept I am an emotional being, or perhaps I am being emotional - there's a simultaneity to it all, because all space/time is like that.
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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2009, 03:21:32 am »


In that case.
Here are the others.

You have the last one there. The first one does not quite get on but its still good without the first one.

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« Reply #15 on: July 23, 2009, 04:43:51 am »

http://www.4shared.com/file/120031652/e9534740/3C_of_3.html

Try this link and telll me if you can download this file.
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« Reply #14 on: July 23, 2009, 04:02:01 am »

<a href="http://www.4shared.com/ref/9438650/1">Join 4Shared Now!</a>

This site has sharing and file sharing.

If you joined it you can share my stuff and I will upload it there. YOu can also upload that meditation there once its done so we can all share in it

I am uploading as we speak. Ill give you the link when its done.
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« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2009, 03:34:04 am »

My first encounter with wayne Dyer is.

"How to be a no limit person." I think its a three hour Audio seminar. Together with reading pulling your own strings is a powerful combination. Then there was the really really really stuff. I have tehm all on my Hard drive.  You will see it when you believe it. When I read that book I hit that blissfull space that you cannot describe in words but it lasted like three months or so.
Manifest your destiny, is another one that comes to mind.

Lets see if I can put some on the net for you to download.
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2009, 01:24:07 am »

Well what can I say?

Wayne was the master who taught me that very same thing. Excellent stuff. Smitten
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« Reply #11 on: July 23, 2009, 01:03:14 am »

Yip I just read this bit by wayne

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"there is that word  "choose" again . You have the capacity to stop choosing a mind that is actively working to keep you from enjoying reality"


we can chose our emotions , people cant control our emotions we are the one in charge of them  Coolsmiley it may take time to change the way we are but if we really really want to change then we will  angel

hehee excellent ann.. by jove i think youve got it!  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2009, 03:00:39 pm »

Hahaha "A clerk is a Jerk!!"

I read it in my teens., Pulling your own strings. It is a fantastic book.
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« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2009, 01:09:42 pm »

You are intelligent.

Most people never learn this because they dont have the intelligence to ask the question.

Great masters like Ramtha says you can measure a peoples intelligence not by what they know but rather by the questions they ask.
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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2009, 05:20:15 pm »

Ann you are correct. Now how much do you need to experience it before you know? In the plain of expereince there is one mandate. Make known the unknown or experience the unexprerienced.

Think about it. We as a society dwell on our wounds. We get friends to sympathise and we join groups about it. We a carry it around like a second personality. "I was molestered as a child" Thats one of the common ones. We keep it alive and in manifestation by having sympathisers and meetings about sad events in our past.

You see the awakened dreamer knows that this is just a dream. When the experience of anger comes along he gets into it and feels it. Exactly what you suggest. After that it is done. How many times does he need to experience it in a lifetime? Once is enough. The next time around he can take a back seat when anger comes by and choose something else or even choose to start playing with the energy of anger to see if he can use it for other stuff.
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« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2009, 12:28:53 pm »

 Smiley  thanks eugene for all your explanation and thanks ann for the questions..

both of you have helped me here.

I do too believe we come here to be human and to have the experience of the emotions.. in all their wondrous colours and patterns..

BUT

I NOW ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE CAN CHOOSE TO FEEL THEM OR NOT, CHOOSE TO LET THEM CONTROL US  OR US TO CONTROL THEM...

SO LETS SEE BY EXAMPLE.. ANGER.. WE CAN BE ANGRY.. anger or any other emotion isnt bad.. or wrong...

but then what do we do with the anger..

is it safe?

OR IS IT..destructive to ourselves or others..??

 and i guess then its about how we react or not..

we could ...see them, feel them and let them float by us.. as they are not us, but byproducts of an emzyme action /reaction within us..Huh?

Ultimately we are our souls.. we are spiritual bodies having a human expereince...


dont know if that helps anyone, but it helped me see clearer...


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