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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2009, 04:03:45 am »

Its true

I often see how Governments repeat the past but they colour it differently.

I mean what is the difference between a soldier from a Peace corps and one from Conqueror corps? They both obey orders without question.

Then a "pro active" peace Corps is also a conqueror. "Do onto other's before they get an opportunity to do unto you."
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2009, 02:55:24 pm »

IMO, war is never justified, unless you are being attacked.

However, in the book "Hitler's Speeches 1939-1941", published in 1942, the "backstory" behind the speech is given, along with the speech and the reaction of different newspapers to the speech. These news reports indicate that the treaty signed by the Germans ending WWI (which was started by the assassination of the Kaiser) was strangling Germans and was the cause of the economic collapse.

In the book, it is shown that France, Germany's sworn enemy since before WWI, was instrumental in causing this collapse. While other countries allowed a longer time frame in repayment of the debt caused by the previous war, recognising what was happening in Germany, France insisted that the debt be paid in accordance to the treaty on time, with no flexibility. The book goes on to show that Britain urged France to change its position, saying that the lives of the German people were at stake.

When Hitler attacked Poland, it was to show France (who had signed a mutual nonaggression pact with same) that he was sincere in his attempts to stop the German people from starving--and that he would go to any lengths to do so.

Previous to the invasion, France's troops had amassed at Germany's borders. The Germans by then had built enormous amounts of weapons- all under the watchful eye of the "Allies", who permitted it due to France's threats to "wipe out " Germany.'

If that doesn't explain it to you, ask yourself this: why did the American people not riot when Iran was invaded? The answer 'we were getting rid of a horrible dictator' doesn't wash, esp. since the US put him in there after overthrowing the Shaw. We are not responsible for how another nation conducts its affairs, no matter how horrible we may perceive that country's leader.

If you consider Hitler's actions as morally wrong, the you should also consider Bush's actions wrong as well-- and should be insisting that he be tried at the Hague as a war criminal.

The situation facting Hitler is similar in circumstance to the first Gulf War, when Kuwaiti troops were sent to 'protect' Kuwait from an 'imminent' invasion by Saddam, who nothing about this 'imminent' invasion.
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« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2009, 03:12:35 pm »

Did Hitler want war?

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On Sept. 1, 1939, 70 years ago, the German Army crossed the Polish frontier. On Sept. 3, Britain declared war.

Six years later, 50 million Christians and Jews had perished. Britain was broken and bankrupt, Germany a smoldering ruin. Europe had served as the site of the most murderous combat known to man, and civilians had suffered worse horrors than the soldiers.

By May 1945, Red Army hordes occupied all the great capitals of Central Europe: Vienna, Prague, Budapest, Berlin. A hundred million Christians were under the heel of the most barbarous tyranny in history: the Bolshevik regime of the greatest terrorist of them all, Josef Stalin.

What cause could justify such sacrifices?

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2009, 01:24:43 pm »


Were Hitler and Lenin really enemies ? Enemies don't play chess together...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/culturenews/6130672/Pictured-Hitler-playing-chess-with-Lenin.html
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« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2009, 03:18:26 am »

Eugene, I watched the video.

It is both wonderful and terrible at the same time.

Remember...humans have a propensity to turn discoveries into new ways of killing their own species.
Still...thank you  very much for the info.

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I really believe that humans do not have that by nature.

Through the years I realized that human narture is good.

But sthere are a lot of crap we belive that bring on greed and scarcity and then we want to kill for the sake of survival. Its only because we belive in the crap we were fed since childhood. It is not in our nature to kill.
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« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2009, 01:55:49 am »

Yeah the last article is a long one. A lot longer than the piece I quoted here.

YOu can hear the undertone of emotion in a lot of these videos. Some people are speaking from emotional "wounds" and often it makes them sound like biased propagandists but a lot of these stories correspond whern you cross reference them.

For me it was terrible at first to realize that some people only look upon masses as resources. But down the line I came to peace with the knowing that we are all creating our own creations and these Elitists are just part of the big drama.

For me empowering myself is now the most important thing and what the elitists do is just "Good to know" and interesting at the same time.

Their game is going to collapse soon enough and the people who learned to use their "God given" tools will be better of for learning how.
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2009, 01:39:38 am »

Eugene, I watched the video.

It is both wonderful and terrible at the same time.

Remember...humans have a propensity to turn discoveries into new ways of killing their own species.
Still...thank you  very much for the info.

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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2009, 08:35:57 am »

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html

Hitler is said to be a puppet of the Zionists. He needed money, they had money. Need I say more? I often think the price he paid for the money they gave turned out to be too high.

 
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Zionism and the Third Reich
by Mark Weber
Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its name, "Tel Aviv," while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a National Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship recalled this symbolic combination as a "metaphysical absurdity."1 Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's Third Reich.

Common Aims
Over the years, people in many different countries have wrestled with the "Jewish question": that is, what is the proper role of Jews in non-Jewish society? During the 1930s, Jewish Zionists and German National Socialists shared similar views on how to deal with this perplexing issue. They agreed that Jews and Germans were distinctly different nationalities, and that Jews did not belong in Germany. Jews living in the Reich were therefore to be regarded not as "Germans of the Jewish faith," but rather as members of a separate national community. Zionism (Jewish nationalism) also implied an obligation by Zionist Jews to resettle in Palestine, the "Jewish homeland." They could hardly regard themselves as sincere Zionists and simultaneously claim equal rights in Germany or any other "foreign" country.

Theodor Herzl (1860-1904), the founder of modern Zionism, maintained that anti-Semitism is not an aberration, but a natural and completely understandable response by non-Jews to alien Jewish behavior and attitudes. The only solution, he argued, is for Jews to recognize reality and live in a separate state of their own. "The Jewish question exists wherever Jews live in noticeable numbers," he wrote in his most influential work, The Jewish State. "Where it does not exist, it is brought in by arriving Jews ... I believe I understand anti-Semitism, which is a very complex phenomenon. I consider this development as a Jew, without hate or fear." The Jewish question, he maintained, is not social or religious. "It is a national question. To solve it we must, above all, make it an international political issue ..." Regardless of their citizenship, Herzl insisted, Jews constitute not merely a religious community, but a nationality, a people, a Volk.2 Zionism, wrote Herzl, offered the world a welcome "final solution of the Jewish question."3

Six months after Hitler came to power, the Zionist Federation of Germany (by far the largest Zionist group in the country) submitted a detailed memorandum to the new government that reviewed German-Jewish relations and formally offered Zionist support in "solving" the vexing "Jewish question." The first step, it suggested, had to be a frank recognition of fundamental national differences: 4

Zionism has no illusions about the difficulty of the Jewish condition, which consists above all in an abnormal occupational pattern and in the fault of an intellectual and moral posture not rooted in one's own tradition. Zionism recognized decades ago that as a result of the assimilationist trend, symptoms of deterioration were bound to appear ...

Zionism believes that the rebirth of the national life of a people, which is now occurring in Germany through the emphasis on its Christian and national character, must also come about in the Jewish national group. For the Jewish people, too, national origin, religion, common destiny and a sense of its uniqueness must be of decisive importance in the shaping of its existence. This means that the egotistical individualism of the liberal era must be overcome and replaced with a sense of community and collective responsibility ...

We believe it is precisely the new [National Socialist] Germany that can, through bold resoluteness in the handling of the Jewish question, take a decisive step toward overcoming a problem which, in truth, will have to be dealt with by most European peoples ...

Our acknowledgment of Jewish nationality provides for a clear and sincere relationship to the German people and its national and racial realities. Precisely because we do not wish to falsify these fundamentals, because we, too, are against mixed marriage and are for maintaining the purity of the Jewish group and reject any trespasses in the cultural domain, we -- having been brought up in the German language and German culture -- can show an interest in the works and values of German culture with admiration and internal sympathy ...

For its practical aims, Zionism hopes to be able to win the collaboration of even a government fundamentally hostile to Jews, because in dealing with the Jewish question not sentimentalities are involved but a real problem whose solution interests all peoples and at the present moment especially the German people ...

Boycott propaganda -- such as is currently being carried on against Germany in many ways -- is in essence un-Zionist, because Zionism wants not to do battle but to convince and to build ...

We are not blind to the fact that a Jewish question exists and will continue to exist. From the abnormal situation of the Jews severe disadvantages result for them, but also scarcely tolerable conditions for other peoples.

The Federation's paper, the Jüdische Rundschau ("Jewish Review"), proclaimed the same message: "Zionism recognizes the existence of a Jewish problem and desires a far-reaching and constructive solution. For this purpose Zionism wishes to obtain the assistance of all peoples, whether pro- or anti-Jewish, because, in its view, we are dealing here with a concrete rather than a sentimental problem, the solution of which all peoples are interested."5 A young Berlin rabbi, Joachim Prinz, who later settled in the United States and became head of the American Jewish Congress, wrote in his 1934 book, Wir Juden ("We Jews"), that the National Socialist revolution in Germany meant "Jewry for the Jews." He explained: "No subterfuge can save us now. In place of assimilation we desire a new concept: recognition of the Jewish nation and Jewish race." 6

Active Collaboration
On this basis of their similar ideologies about ethnicity and nationhood, National Socialists and Zionists worked together for what each group believed was in its own national interest. As a result, the Hitler government vigorously supported Zionism and Jewish emigration to Palestine from 1933 until 1940-1941, when the Second World War prevented extensive collaboration.

Even as the Third Reich became more entrenched, many German Jews, probably a majority, continued to regard themselves, often with considerable pride, as Germans first. Few were enthusiastic about pulling up roots to begin a new life in far-away Palestine. Nevertheless, more and more German Jews turned to Zionism during this period. Until late 1938, the Zionist movement flourished in Germany under Hitler. The circulation of the Zionist Federation's bi-weekly Jüdische Rundschau grew enormously. Numerous Zionist books were published. "Zionist work was in full swing" in Germany during those years, the Encyclopaedia Judaica notes. A Zionist convention held in Berlin in 1936 reflected "in its composition the vigorous party life of German Zionists."7

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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2009, 06:44:27 am »

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/nwo/nazis_hitler_used_rothschild_bankers_typewriter.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/patriot2_hitler_powers_bush.htm


Hitlers co conspirators. http://babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com/2009/04/hitlers-co-conspirators.html
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« on: September 03, 2009, 01:51:54 am »

I get so many conversations around Hitler and the Jews that I decided to set up this thread.

I ask that you please post anything you have on the Holocaust, Hitler's life, and especially hitler's meddling with the isoteric and occult and how he used it.

For now I will just post links to all the other threads on the same topic.

Conspiracies regarding Jewish people: http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,93.0.html

Holocaust: http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,97.0.html

The Nazi UFO Connection.  http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,482.0.html
I have to get more on this because I saw a video on Hitlers Ufo's that he built himself.

Subterranean Nazi Haven  http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,162.0.html

Germain built UFO's  http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,163.0.html

The house of Rotchild.  http://spiritquest.smfforfree.com/index.php/topic,647.0.html

Lets gather everything we have on these subjects. Links please?

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